MR 15
de_dust2 Counter-Terrorist 16 Terrorist 7

Aug 31 2017 11:44AM - Aug 31 2017 12:14PM

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Counter-Terrorists Enemy Killed60.14

Name RWS Frags Assists Deaths Clutches C4 Points Accuracy % HS % ADR FPR RWS-A
milliegram 40.00 2 0 0 0 0 33.333 33.333 200.0 2.000 13.41
Crazy✯ 20.00 1 0 0 0 0 33.333 0.000 100.0 1.000 11.08
ρєитα 20.00 1 0 0 0 1 40.000 0.000 100.0 1.000 9.51
Mayong 20.00 1 0 1 0 0 54.546 16.667 100.0 1.000 15.94
Crusader 0.00 0 0 1 0 0 0.000 0.000 0.0 0.000 10.20

Terrorists Defeat55.89

Name RWS Frags Assists Deaths Clutches C4 Points Accuracy % HS % ADR FPR RWS-A
sHaN "D" Handsome"SuzloN EnergY" 0.00 1 0 1 0 0 18.750 33.333 100.0 1.000 6.41
jay 0.00 1 0 1 0 0 9.091 0.000 12.0 1.000 12.55
bni 0.00 0 0 1 0 0 11.111 0.000 61.0 0.000 11.47
`Jao 0.00 0 0 1 0 0 0.000 0.000 0.0 0.000 15.25
Bullet for my Valentine 0.00 0 1 1 0 0 62.500 0.000 104.0 0.000 10.21
RWS >10% of expected win contributionRWS within 10% of expectedRWS <10% of expected
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R#08 nkd : AQ : come lick my ass
R#16 ea (Team) : dude
R#08 nkd : Hi kids! Do you like Primus?
R#16 ea (Team) : can close range
R#08 Fire Angel (Team) : -54
R#16 kobe (Team) : .spec
R#08 Ben- (Team) : yes
R#16 ConfusedAria (Team) : ssub
R#08 milliegram (Team) : safhuasfgadgad
R#16 ConfusedAria (Team) : ssubs
R#08 nkd (Team) : :p
R#16 milliegram (Team) : hope had bomb
R#08 nkd : AQ : come lick my ass
R#16 Ben- (Team) : just get rid of all the maps where awps are op
R#08 Fire Angel (Team) : 1cat
R#16 sHaN "D" Handsome"SuzloN EnergY" : rrws
R#08 milliegram (Team) : tangina talaga
R#16 Ben- (Team) : like d2
R#08 milliegram (Team) : hhp
R#16 jay (Team) : hhp
R#08 Fire Angel (Team) : low
R#16 Ben- (Team) : when you veto
R#08 nkd (Team) : i should really unbind that
R#16 Mayong : nge
R#08 milliegram (Team) : LO)W:?
R#16 ConfusedAria (Team) : !route3
R#08 milliegram (Team) : 100 HP
R#16 nkd : goku said triple jay is easy lol
R#08 Ben- (Team) : will be fun
R#16 Mayong : nge
R#08 milliegram (Team) : nice
R#16 Mayong : ngek
R#08 Fire Angel (Team) : he died
R#17 ConfusedAria (Team) : !route2
R#08 nkd : but i dont think we have 5 players
R#17 Ben- (Team) : goku says a lots of things
R#08 Mayong : Yung akala nyong mananalo na kayo. pero hindi pala
R#17 ConfusedAria (Team) : !route4
R#08 Fire Angel (Team) : i was talkin about jao
R#17 nkd (Team) : and goku is in the same team
R#08 sHaN "D" Handsome"SuzloN EnergY" : *SPEC* team cristolmeth/Kidd : i am gay
R#17 Mayong : jao
R#08 ea (Team) : ooh yea 4 hours ago i see cris talk about u and your frends of lag
R#17 Mayong : ngek
R#08 Mayong : #umasanaman
R#17 jay : nttwa ako kay jao
R#08 ea (Team) : lol
R#17 ea (Team) : ya
R#09 Fire Angel (Team) : -----------------Damage Given to "`Jao" - 54 in 3 hits
R#17 nkd (Team) : lol
R#09 bni : mainit ulo ni jao nagtatry siya
R#17 `Jao : ahahaha
R#09 nkd (Team) : pk is busy, that gicky is not available
R#17 ea (Team) : goku jao jmax
R#09 kobe (Team) : ssub
R#17 ConfusedAria (Team) : !route1
R#09 kobe (Team) : ssubs
R#17 nkd (Team) : goku said he dont wanna play with jay :p
R#09 Ben- (Team) : thats not a problem just get som1 with -1 rws then the guy you are missing
R#17 ea (Team) : all awpers lol
R#09 Ben- (Team) : tahts the rule in drafts
R#17 sHaN "D" Handsome"SuzloN EnergY" (Team) : al
R#09 nkd (Team) : yeah
R#17 ea (Team) : wow
R#09 ea (Team) : or
R#17 sHaN "D" Handsome"SuzloN EnergY" (Team) : all
R#09 ρєитα (Team) : .subs
R#17 ea (Team) : why
R#09 nkd (Team) : scouting atm
R#17 ea (Team) : ?
R#09 ea (Team) : +1?
R#17 ConfusedAria (Team) : ssub
R#09 ea (Team) : or-1?
R#17 nkd (Team) : dunno
R#09 Ben- (Team) : its -1
R#17 ea (Team) : jay or jao?
R#09 nkd (Team) : thats 9.91
R#17 nkd (Team) : both
R#09 Fire Angel (Team) : again b flashed
R#17 ea (Team) : lol
R#09 nkd (Team) : lol
R#17 ea (Team) : tell switch with apes
R#09 ea (Team) : canot +1?
R#17 ConfusedAria : maglalaro pa ba tayo bukas?
R#09 nkd (Team) : must ask ashan
R#18 nkd (Team) : hi loabs <3
R#09 sHaN "D" Handsome"SuzloN EnergY" (Team) : ct
R#18 Mayong : usp na lang ako jao. kunin mo tong usp mo
R#09 Ben- (Team) : otherwise youd get a better player
R#18 milliegram (Team) : go along again
R#09 ea : lol crus
R#18 ConfusedAria (Team) : hi <3
R#09 `Jao : omg
R#18 jay : facepalm
R#09 Ben- (Team) : which is dumb for a draft
R#18 milliegram (Team) : shan's al
R#09 `Jao : osrryt
R#18 `Jao : sige
R#10 Crusader : wtf
R#18 Ben- : .subs
R#10 nkd (Team) : i dont get why people register if they cant make it
R#18 nkd (Team) : ssubs
R#10 `Jao : i press aimbot
R#18 ConfusedAria (Team) : .subs
R#10 jay : like that mayong
R#18 ea : lol crus
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R#00 White haabi : rr
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R#10 `Jao : SHIT
R#18 jay : hahaha
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R#00 `Jao (Team) : rr
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R#10 bni : stfu
R#18 ConfusedAria : maglalaro pa tayo bukas?
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R#00 `Jao : wow team mayong
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R#10 `Jao : OMG CRUS
R#18 Crusader : lol
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R#00 milliegram : rr
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R#10 Ben- (Team) : neither do i
R#18 Crusader : so many
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R#00 `Jao : so noob
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R#10 `Jao : NO
R#18 milliegram (Team) : olay
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R#00 Crusader : rr
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R#10 bni : please
R#18 ConfusedAria : forfeit na gad
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R#00 Ben- : .sub
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R#10 nkd (Team) : sad
R#18 Crusader : wtf
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R#00 Ben- : MY GAME DECIDED TO CRASH
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R#10 ea (Team) : lol
R#19 jay : si jao nakahawak sa hita ko habang naglalaro
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R#00 ea : mega with dark always
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R#10 Ben- (Team) : organized 5 tourneys in n.a it happens all the fucking time
R#19 Mayong : usp na lang ako
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R#00 Ben- : LIKE A BITCH
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R#10 nkd (Team) : christ worried
R#19 ea (Team) : ben u know adam in canada?
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R#00 jay : ayaw ko na
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R#10 Mayong : ay
R#19 `Jao : hahahaha
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R#00 ea (Team) : hai ben
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R#10 Mayong : sorry po
R#19 Mayong : confirmed
R#01 Mayong : galingan nyo ha?
R#10 ea : mayong said ez
R#19 Mayong : hahaha
R#01 jay : andyan na si mayon
R#10 nkd (Team) : i see
R#19 jay : iritated
R#01 kobe (Team) : ssubs
R#10 ea : learn shan
R#19 Ben- (Team) : nop, maybe i used to
R#01 `Jao : go go go team mayong
R#10 nkd (Team) : yeah mayong got the better team
R#19 Ben- (Team) : but not in the last 4 years
R#01 ea (Team) : ben from usa
R#10 ea : how to not get flash
R#19 ea (Team) : kk
R#01 `Jao : HAHAHAHAHA
R#10 Mayong : yun lang
R#19 ea (Team) : btw why bison not play again?
R#01 Mayong : may ginagawa kasi ako kanina e
R#11 milliegram (Team) : nateamflash aq
R#19 nkd : jay goku said youre not good
R#01 `Jao : 40-9
R#11 Mayong : get good first jay and jao
R#19 nkd : lol
R#01 White haabi : GOODLUCKHAVEFUN!!!!!!!!!! :) :) :) :)
R#11 Ben- (Team) : he picked the highest rws he could everytime
R#20 ea (Team) : not play css i mean
R#01 `Jao : RQ MASTER
R#11 ea (Team) : mayong not play right?
R#20 bni : haha
R#01 Ben- (Team) : yes
R#11 nkd (Team) : yeah
R#20 Ben- (Team) : hes playing other games + managing the servers
R#01 Fire Angel (Team) : b
R#11 nkd (Team) : competitive guy
R#20 `Jao : hahaha
R#01 ea (Team) : still remember me?
R#11 Mayong : jay & jao duo = easy kill
R#20 Mayong : usp na lang ako
R#01 Ben- (Team) : well now from Canada
R#11 Ben- (Team) : so on paper yes, but better team idk
R#20 bni : piso piso yung hack
R#01 ea (Team) : i cod
R#11 ea (Team) : idk why riser never pick the best rrws lol
R#20 `Jao : wag ka maingay jamayx
R#01 Ben- (Team) : of course
R#11 Ben- (Team) : we will see at the tourney
R#20 ConfusedAria (Team) : i might cry for the first over a game tomorrow
R#01 Mayong : anong rq dun?
R#11 nkd (Team) : yap
R#20 ea (Team) : oh
R#01 ea (Team) : ohh okay
R#11 nkd (Team) : yours is pretty awesome too
R#20 bni : kailangan malapit
R#01 Mayong : tinapos ko nga e
R#11 Ben- (Team) : he wants to make it fair and so did i
R#20 Ben- (Team) : he plays css but at diff hours then you :P
R#01 ea (Team) : wtf canada and play in sg server
R#11 Mayong : ngek
R#20 ea (Team) : lol
R#01 Crazy✯ : ssub
R#11 ea (Team) : lol
R#20 ea (Team) : why?
R#01 milliegram (Team) : -Zest- is our problem
R#11 nkd (Team) : hehe
R#20 nkd (Team) : i might not wake up for the match lol
R#01 White haabi (Team) : hhp
R#11 Ben- (Team) : all my players are 11 rws and -
R#20 nkd : AQ : come lick my ass
R#01 Ben- (Team) : im boycotting the N.A serv
R#11 nkd : maybe i should ask malu
R#20 ea (Team) : oh lol
R#01 milliegram (Team) : .rws
R#11 Ben- (Team) : could of had 2 12-13 rws
R#20 ConfusedAria (Team) : jao and jay lol
R#01 nkd : team gayong
R#11 Ben- (Team) : and be top rws :P
R#20 Ben- (Team) : hes west coast which means he gets up 3-4 hours after me
R#01 Ben- (Team) : and playing on the asia tourney
R#11 nkd (Team) : hehe
R#20 ConfusedAria (Team) : prolly 16-0
R#01 ea (Team) : ya
R#11 ea (Team) : lol
R#20 ea (Team) : damn kidd
R#01 Ben- (Team) : so :P
R#11 nkd (Team) : yeah you got the first pick
R#20 nkd (Team) : its 11 am in the morning wtf
R#01 Fire Angel (Team) : who
R#11 milliegram (Team) : fuck
R#20 ea (Team) : wow
R#02 ea (Team) : lol
R#11 milliegram (Team) : fire
R#20 ea : shan learn
R#02 White haabi : ssub
R#11 sHaN "D" Handsome"SuzloN EnergY" (Team) : last b
R#20 ea : how spec wan learn from u
R#02 milliegram (Team) : Crus can you go al?
R#11 milliegram (Team) : pit
R#20 Ben- (Team) : so if hes playing its at around 18:00 pm to 3:00 am East coast time
R#02 `Jao : gamit tayo ng 2% ng lakas jay
R#11 Mayong : jao
R#20 nkd (Team) : sen you got goku jay jao jmax
R#02 milliegram (Team) : zest and fire will go B
R#11 nkd (Team) : you should ve done that
R#20 nkd (Team) : gg
R#02 sHaN "D" Handsome"SuzloN EnergY" : all spec learn..
R#11 milliegram (Team) : pit
R#20 milliegram (Team) : aw
R#02 milliegram (Team) : fire said B too
R#11 Mayong : why ?
R#21 jay : HAHAHAHA
R#02 White haabi (Team) : speak louder
R#11 Ben- (Team) : i had the last 1
R#21 ConfusedAria (Team) : goku doesnt want to play with jao and jay
R#02 `Jao : ya
R#11 milliegram (Team) : pit
R#21 `Jao : shh
R#02 milliegram (Team) : it's zest
R#11 milliegram (Team) : piut
R#21 ConfusedAria (Team) : LOL
R#02 Crazy✯ : did shan just tell us to learn?
R#11 milliegram (Team) : site
R#21 `Jao : jay
R#02 ea : yes
R#11 milliegram (Team) : hhp
R#21 milliegram (Team) : smoke as?
R#02 Crazy✯ : 0.o
R#11 Ben- (Team) : and the first 2nd round pick
R#21 milliegram (Team) : someone
R#02 ea : as always
R#11 milliegram (Team) : hhp
R#21 nkd (Team) : lol
R#02 Crazy✯ : lol xD
R#11 ea : fire say easy
R#21 Mayong : 13-15 captain ba yan
R#02 White haabi (Team) : hhp
R#11 Ben- (Team) : so picked the only people i knew
R#21 sHaN "D" Handsome"SuzloN EnergY" : *SPEC* la la la la la la la la la la : shan i am gay.help me please
R#02 Crazy✯ : well he better teach me something if he going to say that
R#11 bni : HAHH
R#21 ea (Team) : so he wan?
R#02 Fire Angel (Team) : 2b
R#11 `Jao (Team) : LOL
R#21 ea (Team) : wtf
R#02 White haabi : sspec
R#12 Crusader : omg
R#21 ea (Team) : shan
R#02 ea : btw sorry my english bad so many typo :)
R#12 `Jao (Team) : U LUCKY HE IS NOOB
R#21 nkd (Team) : ssub
R#02 milliegram (Team) : .subs
R#12 milliegram (Team) : stick to one tapping please
R#21 ea (Team) : i not said that
R#02 nkd : team gayong
R#12 jay (Team) : !ignore la la
R#21 milliegram (Team) : ???
R#02 bni : haha crus
R#12 ea (Team) : lol
R#21 jay : what is it kid?
R#03 milliegram (Team) : finally he left
R#12 sHaN "D" Handsome"SuzloN EnergY" (Team) : lt
R#21 milliegram (Team) : mid
R#03 sHaN "D" Handsome"SuzloN EnergY" : 1 tap so ez..
R#12 Fire Angel (Team) : m having high ping :(
R#21 nkd : ?
R#03 bni : LMAO
R#12 nkd (Team) : ping is a worry for you guys ben
R#21 jay : guko what?
R#03 `Jao : tahimik lang muna ko
R#12 `Jao : P90 MASTER
R#21 nkd : guko?
R#03 ea (Team) : kidd
R#12 Fire Angel (Team) : not my fault tho
R#21 jay : goku*
R#03 nkd (Team) : ?
R#12 milliegram (Team) : 2 lt
R#21 nkd : lmao
R#03 ea (Team) : i think u play csgo lol
R#12 Bullet for my Valentine (Team) : tunn
R#21 milliegram (Team) : hhp
R#03 nkd (Team) : no
R#12 Ben- (Team) : not really
R#21 milliegram (Team) : hhp
R#03 sHaN "D" Handsome"SuzloN EnergY" : rrws
R#12 milliegram (Team) : hhp
R#21 nkd : nothing
R#03 Fire Angel (Team) : xD
R#12 Ben- (Team) : queen is fine with his 170 ping
R#21 milliegram (Team) : hhp
R#03 Fire Angel (Team) : oakyy xD
R#12 nkd (Team) : yours is 200+ yesterday
R#21 milliegram (Team) : both mid
R#03 Crazy✯ : lol
R#12 milliegram (Team) : hodor
R#21 milliegram (Team) : ct mid
R#03 nkd (Team) : i play my cock
R#12 Mayong : yun lang
R#21 bni (Team) : naka hax ba?
R#03 ea (Team) : u dont like?
R#12 milliegram : rr
R#21 nkd : just trying to destroy your team from the inside
R#03 Fire Angel : LMAO
R#12 `Jao : hahahahahahaha
R#21 jay (Team) : sino
R#03 Fire Angel : n1
R#12 Mayong : umasa
R#21 milliegram (Team) : lt-B?
R#03 ea (Team) : why
R#13 `Jao : P90 MASTER
R#21 nkd : nvm
R#03 ea (Team) : stop bad talk
R#13 Ben- (Team) : and im fine as long i aint close range
R#21 jay : haha
R#03 nkd (Team) : no this tourny is my last
R#13 ea (Team) : ya 200+
R#21 milliegram (Team) : CTB
R#03 nkd (Team) : switching to csgo then
R#13 `Jao : HAHAHAHAHA
R#21 jay : its ok dude
R#03 Crazy✯ (Team) : 2 tuns
R#13 ea (Team) : and its so lag
R#21 nkd : we have a surprise player
R#03 ea (Team) : oh okay
R#13 Ben- (Team) : close range people teleport
R#21 ea (Team) : jay and jao dk goku no wan play with him?
R#03 milliegram (Team) : pistol player yun
R#13 Mayong : kay shan yun unggoy
R#21 milliegram (Team) : hhp
R#03 nkd : team gayong ftw
R#13 jay : u mad bro?
R#21 Ben- : thats ez start a debate about whos the best awper between them
R#03 Ben- (Team) : any league in asia on csgo ?
R#13 `Jao : u mad bro?
R#21 ea (Team) : him (jay and jao)
R#03 sHaN "D" Handsome"SuzloN EnergY" : bff change slot..
R#13 jay : hahaha
R#21 Ben- : christ
R#03 Ben- (Team) : there was none back on source
R#13 `Jao : hahahahahaha
R#21 ea : SHAN go die now in real life i never say that
R#03 Crazy✯ : what? :p
R#13 ea (Team) : use p90 ben
R#21 Bullet for my Valentine (Team) : hhp
R#03 nkd (Team) : yap
R#13 bni : di ako umasa dahil alam ko talo ako dun
R#21 Bullet for my Valentine (Team) : 100
R#03 milliegram (Team) : boost nga kita as
R#13 `Jao : gustong gusto manalo
R#21 milliegram (Team) : HAHAHA
R#03 bni : reporting jao
R#13 jay : @Z@R
R#21 nkd : lmao
R#03 ea (Team) : who?
R#13 Mayong : jay and jao duo = easy
R#21 bni : ROFL
R#03 nkd (Team) : just play faceit
R#13 `Jao : deagle na nga lang ako e
R#21 Mayong : glocked!!!!
R#03 Fire Angel (Team) : xD
R#13 ea (Team) : cris avraid of your high ping
R#22 `Jao : ahaha
R#03 Fire Angel (Team) : nt
R#13 Ben- (Team) : nah ill probably awp
R#22 jay : hahaha
R#03 bni : wallhacking
R#13 nkd (Team) : chris afraid of nothing lala
R#22 sHaN "D" Handsome"SuzloN EnergY" : stfu u r gay whole world know about that..
R#04 sHaN "D" Handsome"SuzloN EnergY" : bff its team slot..
R#13 nkd (Team) : lol
R#22 milliegram : glawks
R#04 `Jao : hahahaha
R#13 Fire Angel (Team) : both low
R#22 Mayong : glock bnalang ako
R#04 Ben- (Team) : if im playing leagues it will be esea
R#13 Fire Angel (Team) : real low
R#22 Mayong : pang glock lang pala kalidad mo
R#04 sHaN "D" Handsome"SuzloN EnergY" : ssubs
R#13 nkd (Team) : dont underestimate the underdogs
R#22 Mayong : a\hahaha
R#04 nkd (Team) : yea
R#13 ea (Team) : about this afternoon in pug.
R#22 ea : AHAHA CRUS
R#04 nkd (Team) : where are you from ben?
R#13 ea (Team) : cris talk about lag ben
R#22 Crusader : ssubs
R#04 ea (Team) : cent
R#13 Ben- (Team) : hey im the underdog
R#22 `Jao : ang lakas nila jay
R#04 Ben- (Team) : Canada
R#13 ea (Team) : he think ben can use p90
R#23 `Jao : gg na tayo
R#04 nkd (Team) : do you play csgo?
R#13 nkd (Team) : really
R#23 Mayong : glock na nga lang ako e
R#04 nkd (Team) : cool
R#13 Ben- (Team) : got 240 ping :)
R#23 bni : pati tournament
R#04 ρєитα (Team) : hi
R#13 ea (Team) : and cris said carefull with p90 ben
R#23 bni : hah
R#04 Ben- (Team) : not really but had offer to play main
R#13 Bullet for my Valentine (Team) : a s
R#23 `Jao : hahaha
R#04 ea (Team) : from canada play in sg server
R#13 ea (Team) : its so lag and use p90
R#23 jay : hahaha
R#04 ea (Team) : gg so lag
R#13 Mayong : hahaha
R#23 jay : bukas ba?
R#04 Ben- (Team) : without playing csgo much
R#13 ea (Team) : is so good when l ag use p90
R#23 jay : what time
R#04 nkd (Team) : i see
R#13 ea (Team) : ahahaha
R#23 `Jao : pag gusto manalo jaymax mananalo talaga
R#04 ea : wow jay
R#13 kobe (Team) : ssubs
R#23 Mayong : Team Jao = Bonus round
R#04 ea : u get rekt
R#13 nkd (Team) : i think sris got the lowest rws
R#23 jay : may pasok ako
R#04 nkd (Team) : css is pretty much dead now
R#13 sHaN "D" Handsome"SuzloN EnergY" : rrws
R#23 jay : nsa sm north ako
R#04 bni : yong
R#14 `Jao (Team) : shan sorry
R#23 jay : ssubs
R#04 bni : ano yun
R#14 nkd (Team) : and pk and somnia in the same team
R#23 bni : wgg
R#04 bni : afk?
R#14 milliegram (Team) : short short short short short short short short short short short short short short
R#23 milliegram : glawks
R#04 Ben- (Team) : yes and no
R#14 ea (Team) : lol
R#23 milliegram : hahaha
R#04 ea (Team) : ya
R#14 nkd (Team) : toxic af :p
R#23 milliegram (Team) : hhp
R#04 Ben- (Team) : n.a is active
R#14 ea (Team) : my team gg
R#23 ea : lol jmax
R#04 nkd (Team) : hehe
R#14 milliegram (Team) : what a meme
R#04 Mayong : may kausap
R#14 Ben- (Team) : yeah but i think the diff is about 6 max between the highest and lowest teams
R#04 Ben- (Team) : with ex-league still playing
R#14 ea (Team) : ya
R#04 ea (Team) : poeple more go to csgo
R#14 Mayong : gbawas ka
R#04 nkd (Team) : yeah we got that eh
R#14 Ben- (Team) : so the rws balanced for the most part
R#05 bni : ahh
R#14 Mayong : 39 nako
R#05 sHaN "D" Handsome"SuzloN EnergY" : eco..
R#14 nkd (Team) : thats huge ben
R#05 bni : jao sinasabi mo ata kung san tayo siya kausap mo
R#14 ea (Team) : 6 is huge